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Duke and Daisy of Randy’s Rad Weims Need Rescue

July 8, 2019 //  by Kim//  Leave a Comment

7/8 9:54 PM UPDATE: Duke and Daisy may have an adoptive home lined up where they can stay together. We are currently speaking with interested families to make sure it’s a good fit for everyone. A big thank you to the CalWEAR village for networking to get these dogs get into their new homes!!!!!


DUKE and DAISY also need a new home, or two. Here is the message that comes with them:

Good Afternoon. I need to find a place for our 2 Weims. They are bother and sister, Duke and Daisy and will be 5 years old this week. Great dogs but unfortunately, our Duke has killed both our cats and my kids and my husband (along with myself) want the dogs to go away. They were purchased for a good purpose but with our current circumstances, they need to be with people who can love them and let them be dogs. They are full bred and are up to date on everything. The sooner we can find them homes, the better. 

Duke and Daisy are in Bakersfield. Their family did the right thing and contacted their breeder before reaching out to us. Their breeder (Randy Betancourt of Randy’s Rad Weims) was unable to take the dogs back. 😢Please reach out via email us if you are able to foster or adopt them. Thank you!


Injun Taylor
Poor FUR babies, sounds like these people might not never mind. Beautiful dogs innocent souls,im handicapped right now ,I have had 3 of these beautiful babies. I HOPE THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT ABUSING THEM. they post like** they angry at what they humans caused ,** they should have never gotten doggies in first place. I have small rescue right now. Wish i could take them both. I have broken femur ,learning to walk again. PLEASE some good people take these 2 fur babies. Im in Calabasas calif area

Robin Blanchard

Putting all blame aside, I hope these beautiful fur babies get a forever home soon.
Candace Gregory
What level training do these two have? I have had Weimies for over 20 years, latest 8 year old one from Randy and had cats with no problem. I have been very happy with my dog from her and could not have gotten a better dog. One of the special things about my dog from her is that it was raised with cats by her when first born. I disagree with what you said about the breeder not being educated about the breed. The truth is exactly the opposite and that you would expect the breeder to take back the dogs after you have had them for 5 years is ridiculous. I may be able to help out if it is a good fit.

Mary Jo Salmen
shared
Amy Erickson
Please don’t separate them
Katie Arce
Most if not all weims have a strong prey drive. Our 3 are the sweetest, smartest and loyal dogs ever but they would not tolerate co-inhabiting with Cats or other small animals. The choice is clear for weim people—no cats.
Rani Hunter
Katie Arce I have had Weimaraners since 1999 and all of mine have lived with cats including 3 rescues we adopted as adults. Maggie our current Weim came to us from CalWEAR at age 9 and she’s great with our cats. I also volunteered with a rescue group in Oklahoma and only had one foster that I couldn’t trust around cats. It can be done and has worked for many friends.

Sara Alsbury
That’s one opinion! My male is fine with cats.

Tori Clark
This is what our weim does with our cat. Browning, the weim, was about 9 months old when he found his way into our home so I don’t know if he had cats before us but I do know he is the most loving thing when it comes to that kitten all he wants to do is lick it and cuddle with it
Alyssa Reimer
Yes, of course they have a prey drive. They were bred to hunt but it is very easy to train these smart dogs. Ours lives with cats and our free range chickens and ducks and has been trained not to touch them. He also goes hunting with my husband. He knows when its time to hunt and when its not, regardless of prey drive. Training works wonders.
Karen Bradfield
Breaks my heart. I sure hope someone can help. Wishing the best for these cuties….
Kim Bose Andrews
Were these puppies when they came to the home? Were the cats there first? If so, the dogs would been fine had they been introduced appropriately. A cat will put a puppy in its place. Mine sure did and they are best friends! Sad for sure. These puppies deserve much, much better!!
Sarah Peters-Findley
Does it really matter at this point? Its not like they can rewind time and “do it right”. Good job being an uber trainer 😊
Ian Newton
Kim Bose Andrews everyones experience is different
Ian Newton
They lost pets too be sensitive not a time for a lesson just trying to find them a cat free home

Kim Bose Andrews
I was not trying nor did I mean to be insensitive. I honestly was just curious as Weims are great “bonders” and will do the same with other pets in the home. My last Weim bonded with our lop eared rabbit because she was introduced as a puppy..three months at that. The rabbit lived freely with in the home like a cat. May heart goes out to these dogs as again, they bond… The wording “just want them gone” is just horrible tho!
Ian Newton
Kim Bose Andrews they suffered and had to make a tough call they feel like they are up against a wall im sure, anything you can do to help
Karen Artman
Suspect there was more involved here than killing 2 cats. There was something about the dogs being purchased for a purpose & it appears things have changed. Very sad for the dogs but I’m sure the Rescue will find them a better home than they had!
Liz Karcz
Both of my Weims came from Randy, different litters a few years apart and never had a problem. And they were around a cat for a few months as well, never had issues between them. Sad about the cats, but that’s not on Randy. Hope they find these two a good home.
Shelly Vargo
My husband killed our goldfish by over feeding them. I didn’t re-home him.
Sandi Ferguson
I must say as a Weim owner for over 20 yrs., we bought our dogs from incredible breeders. We all love this breed. But, to read posts in this website bashing a Weim breeder, by name, is disturbing! I don’t know this breeder, Randy, but, I’ve certainly heard about her breeding Weims for over 20+ years. None of us knows all aspects of this story but, it really behooves everyone to remember there’s a Code of Ethics & Professionalism involved here not to mention a breeders reputation being slandered. We all need to focus on the objectives, rehoming & saving Weims, not bashing one another! I am really disappointed in how certain individuals have commented. Remember civility goes a long way! Kindness to all as we work together for the sake of this beautiful breed! We’re grown-ups, no longer in high school.
Pam Anne

Duke and Daisy are gorgeous dogs, just like the two I got from the same breeder.. Duke and Daisies owners should be rehomed, not the dogs, they deserve better than owners who blame a hunting dog’s behavior on the breeder!
Margo Tko Bliss

Any reputable breeder would take their dogs back no matter what
Mike Hummel
Any GOOD AND RESPONSIBLE dog owner would take on the responsibility of training their dogs too instead of relying on the breeder to take back 5 year old Weimaraners.

Margo Tko Bliss
Mike Hummel agreed but as a breeder we our responsible for the safety and security of our breeding as breeders we made a promise to always keep them safe no matter what.
If we can’t do that then we’re no better then a back yard breeder.
I’ve been doing this for 30 years and I would, and have been there to protect any of my babies

Mike Hummel
Give me a break it’s been five years already. Are you and everyone that is name blaming the breeder for not taking back the weims missing that key point?
You can’t just got throw in two dogs into an established pack and not be worried about more issues happening to the new dogs being introduced or the existing pack in place ??
That’s like saying… “ ok car dealership I bought this car 5 years ago and I hit a child with it and now I want to return it. It doesn’t work that way people … 6 months return to the breeder not 5 years.
You people are dragging someone’s name down and their reputation in the industry because of a cat incident. This breeder as do most of not all, make a living and has a whole hearted passion for these Weimaraner’s and their lives.
If this breeder did anything wrong it was (at best) sold two unconditionally loving Weimaraner’s to a family and an incident to place. Why put the two dogs through more?
Why not love them unconditionally back to the very end?
Margo Tko Bliss
Mike Hummel sorry Mike I feel very differently then you about this.
My breeding my responsibility.

Carrie Todd Putman
Mike Hummel – I will give them the unconditional love they deserve- I’m getting them tomorrow – super excited!
Marcie Hartman
“Purchased for a good purpose” wtf does that mean? People suck. These dogs deserve way better. Hope they find it sooner than later.
Peggy Johnston Frizzo
Marcie Hartman I wondered what that meant too. Sad situation for all.

Sara Alsbury
Marcie Hartman

some people aren’t the greatest with their words. I’m going to choose to believe they had good intentions by it.

Susan Kenneally
Marcie Hartman

me too but the owner sounds so angry. Please keep together. Kind of like needed to dispose of trash. Sad

Erin Coyle
I was wondering what that meant as well.
Anne Boardman Pohnert

Peace sometimes happens in the animal kingdom. But depending on personalities, dominance, etc, it may not…
Mike Hummel
Prime example of proper socializing of a dog and a cat

Sarah Peters-Findley
Actually…. Unless you have a dominante b*%#&y cat… This is not how it always happens. I have coon hounds. The one raised with the hell cat is fabulous with cats. The one socialized with wimpy scardy cats…. Not so much.
Sandi Ferguson

Please! Enough!! We Weim owners, look to our Weim breeders to be professional, knowledgable, respectful, honest & compassionate! None of us knows the breeders circumstances.Those of you who are bashing the breeder must keep in mind: 1). Slandering & defaming anyone on FB / social media, can be looked upon as slander & defamation of one’s character & business, a reason to be sued! While I don’t believe that’s anyone’s agenda, for God sake, please think about what you’re saying in a post before sending!As many Weim owners (20 yrs) present on these posts, we’re honestly shocked at the continued bashing & slander & lack of being “professional” right now!!GOAL: THE real objective is to find these two beautiful Weims a furever home. Focus on the GOAL, please!
Kathy Wessinger Price

I too have cats with my Weime’s and have had no major issues. My Weime’s, on occasion will chase my cat but does not harm him or her. I am sad that you are done with 5 year old dogs but at least you are trying to rehoming them. Thank you for reaching out to our Weimaraner family, I am sure someone will step forward to help.
Sandi Ferguson

Beautiful Weims, truly!Post after post after post now of owners of Randy’s Weims, totally supporting Randy! Time to move on focus on real matters as Mike so sweetly stated, a new home for these beauties!
Anna Seyford

I can talk to my husband. I took 2 girls in at age 7 years old. One lived to 13 and we just lost the other at 16 are they good with children. My kids are grown. But I have grandkids
Kristine Davison Morgan

Well, Randy doesn’t sound too rad. Duke and Daisy, you have better days ahead.
Megan Santiago
Kristine Davison Morgan Hi Kristine I have been super close with randy for over a year and she helped with me with my other weim not even from her blood line, prior to getting a dog from her. She genuinely cares about this breed and her dogs. When children are bad we don’t go back to the hospital and take them back saying they are misbehaving. I wish the OWNERS in this situation wouldn’t have given up. Training does wonders. My female has never been trained to hunt yet she’s spectacular at it naturally. If people choose to have hunting dogs and don’t channel the dogs instinct in a different direction it’s only natural stuff like this happens. Your allowed you opinion but the breeder isn’t at fault and neither are the dogs here.

Kristine Davison Morgan
Megan Santiago I don’t disagree that training goes a long way but at the end of the day, when a family has given up and wants to give dogs away like a pair of old shoes, the person responsible for those dogs being born in the first place should and will take them back if they are in fact a responsible breeder. The end.

Kristine Davison Morgan
I don’t know Randy at all. All I know is that he/she is a breeder that apparently will not take their dogs back, which is something that responsible breeders do. Nothing is going on here. I’m in Texas and have never heard of this person until today. Maybe

California Weimaraner Education and Rescue

could educate its followers on on responsible breeders vs non-responsible breeders since so many think this is ok.

Kristine Davison Morgan
Livie Love well, I feel that you should shove it. It’s not personal. It’s facts about responsible breeders vs not. It’s not personal. Harassment would be looking them up, calling, posting on their social media pages, messaging-and I have done none of that.
Pam Anne
Kristine Davison Morgan YOUR RIDICULOUS…. THE END
Kristine Davison Morgan
Pam Anne I think you mean you’re. 🤣😂
Judythe Coffman

The breeder isn’t very educated on the breed. Most weims don’t get along with cats. The fur/feather hunting instinct can’t be turned off.
Rani Hunter
I have had Weimaraners since 1999 and all of mine have lived with cats including 3 rescues we adopted as adults. Maggie our current Weim came to us from CalWEAR at age 9 and she’s great with our cats. I also volunteered with a rescue group in Oklahoma and only had one foster that I couldn’t trust around cats. It can be done and has worked for many friends.

Sara Alsbury
Judythe Coffman that family has been raising weims for 50 years. They know plenty.
Pammie Hoeltke
My family has owned Wierms since the 60s and never ever had one even go after a cat much less kill one. Yes they are prey driven however properly trained they are def not killers
Brad Mullens
Judythe Coffman I happen to agree with you. I have a beautiful female named Lucy. Friendly, mellow around people/kids and super affectionate. But she is a hunting dog. Weimaraners were bred originally as big game tracking and hunting animals and then became prized at small game hunters. I’ve hunted upland birds over the breed for years. If those dogs come from hunting stock, you cannot turn that prey drive off. Lucy once pointed and then retrieved my sister in law’s Yorkie. She brought the dog to hand completely unharmed but to her, it was just like the countless rabbits and grouse she brings me in the field.
Mike Hummel
disagree completely…
Alyssa Reimer
Yes, of course they have a prey drive. They were bred to hunt but it is very easy to train these smart dogs. Ours lives with cats and our free range chickens and ducks and has been trained not to touch them. He also goes hunting with my husband. He knows when its time to hunt and when its not, regardless of prey drive. Training works wonders.
Kathy Trujillo

Breaks my heart! We also have one of Randy’s weims! Kingsley came home to us 2 years to the date! They absolutely NEED to be trained early!It is a full time job, especially with two! They need to take priority. No issues at all with our Weim. Hope someone can open up their home and keep them together! 🐾
Ruth Thompson

What’s the status of these two babies ? 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️
Carrie Todd Putman
Ruth Thompson – im getting them both tomorrow!! They will have an awesome home 🙂

Ruth Thompson
Carrie Todd Putman omg best news ever!!!! Ty so much for giving them a home, and for keeping them together ❤️❤️🙏🏽🙏🏽
Megan Santiago

I too have a dog from Randy and he is amazing. I have had no issues. These dogs are extremely smart and need training early. How sad to read they want these fur babies to go away!
Kathy Wessinger Price
Megan Santiago it is not about your dogs habits or the breeder. It is about reaching out to help find permanent homes for these Weimaraners,

Kim Burnell
Kathy Wessinger Price

Yes, this. ☝🏽

Jason Boivin

I have 2 weims a min pin a chocolate lab and 2 cats. My cats sleep with the weims and min pin also.
Judi Scranton

I shared. I have lots of friends in Bakersfield.
Leeta McCullah

We have four of Randy Blum-Betancourt weims and they are beautiful dogs. However we dont have cats. I pray the right family fit for these weims and healing for the family.
Judi Scranton

I have business in Bakersfield but live in Oregon. I might be able to help transport if needed.
Megan Santiago

Amber Christian McCombs

friend are you able or know anyone able to take in these babies!!!

Amber Christian McCombs
 thank you. I’ve reached out to a few people. They look just like our Fred and Nala did. 😍

Megan Santiago
 awe. Really!! It just crazy to me. I could never part with my fur babies
Mike Hummel

You have two beautiful animals right there don’t blame the breeder love the dogs wholeheartedly and unconditionally just as they love you. Think about what they may think because they are part of your family
Kathy Wessinger Price
Mike Hummel I don’t think they blame the breeder. They just want the dogs rehomed.

Kim Burnell
Mike Hummel CalWEAR isn’t blaming anyone. Not the breeder. Not the family. Not anyone. Rescue exists to help needy dogs find new homes. That’s all that’s being conveyed here. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Mike Hummel
Why is the breeders name and kennel name even being mentioned by anyone. It’s not the breeder responsibility to take over someone else lack of training.
Sandi Ferguson
Mike Hummel

Who has a right to blame the breeder really, Mike. No one knows the circumstances of the breeders current situation. Thank you for your post!

Mike Hummel
Then tell me Sandi..
Why is it so bad and horrible that the breeder is not taking these two wonderful dogs that are lost in this equation. You can’t just go through two dogs into a pack that is established already and then just hope there is no fight or even worse, death to one of the dogs. This falls on the buys not the breeder. 5 damn years and two cats later these people are like well let’s go dumb these two dogs back on the breeder and let them deal with rehoming them.
No I’m sorry, shame on the buys and those that want to back the buyers and continue to shame the breeder for not taking back the dogs.
Robert P. Melgoza Jr.

How unfortunate. I hope these babies are going to a good, positive, caring and loving home. I have my baby girl Mya from

Randy Blum-Betancourt

and had 0 problems with my Weim. She’s the biggest lap dog you’ll find. A gentle giant if you will. I can’t imagine something like that happening. Sorry to hear, but I have nothing but positive feedback from all of Randy’s Pawrents and how much they’re loving and appreciating their babies. 🐾♥️🐾

Tabatha Martin Bruner

I wish I was close enough, I’d take both of them!! My girl would love to have them in GA! 🐾
Sara Alsbury

I have a male from Randy’s mom who used to breed them as well – he was raised with a cat in the home and we never once had an issue between them.

Ian Newton

Im sure this wasnt easy hope they find a good home
Sunshine Hollingsworth-Kellogg

I can’t foster but willing to transport. I’m in Stockton and will take a vacation day to get these two safe in a nearby area.
Dorothy Agius

This is very sad to me! I work with dogs on many levels, one level is I walk dogs and board the ones I walk. One happen to be a weim, and when she stays with me, she knows not to kill my cats. She, in her own home, does not have cats. This story is so heartbreaking to me, because I love my cats and love all the dogs I care for.
Sara Alsbury

CalWEAR can you please remove/repost this without naming the breeder??? They’re being harassed now….I’ve done volunteer work and donated $$$ several times to weim rescues and intend to continue, just hate to see someone being harassed and it all takes away from what is really needed— a new home for these dogs. I would foster them myself if i didn’t already have a rescue weim that is too territorial.
Erin Coyle
Sara Terrell the Breeders being harassed over these people giving up their dogs? After 5 years? That’s not right at all! I wish I could take them both

Kristine Davison Morgan
A good breeder would take them back.
California Weimaraner Education and Rescue
Kristine Davison Morgan

YES!

Kathy Trujillo
Kristine Davison Morgan a responsible owner would train and research BEFORE making such a bold life move (especially with kids and other animals in the same home). C’mon now. Accountability. Breeder isn’t at fault.

Kristine Davison Morgan
Kathy Trujillo both are, imo. https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeding/responsible-breeders-commitment-dogs-whole-life/
Kristine Davison Morgan
This is what a reputable breeder does. ^^^
Mike Hummel
A good owner that purchased them would’ve thought things more clearly and thoroughly before purchasing two dogs that have hunting backgrounds. And maybe those people that purchased those two dogs would’ve put them in proper dog training classes to teach them discipline. Oh look keyword here … DISCIPLINE!!
And California Weimaraner education and rescue shame on you for blaming the breeder for not taking somebody else’s bad choices back instead of holding the dogs owners accountable for the dogs lack of discipline and education and California Weimaraner education and rescue shame on you for blaming the breeder for not taking somebody else’s bad choices back instead of holding the dogs owners accountable for the dogs lack of discipline and education.

Madison Amelia
Sara Terrell he’s being harassed because he won’t take his dogs back, that’s not a responsible breeder.

Sara Alsbury
Back to my main point… again… which all have missed here…
I thought this was a rescue group not a finger pointing group?
What about this dialogue is helping actually find a foster for these dogs?
Kim Burnell
Did the original post not ask for new homes to come forward?
Sara Alsbury
Yes it did obviously but you don’t need to name the breeder and her business.
Sara Alsbury
Unfortunately there are a lot of backyard breeders out there who are just in it for the money – Randy is not one of those people.
My female is a product of such a place, having been given up on Craigslist at barely two years old the moment they could legally give up her pups (which was her second litter already). As much as I am pissed at that person for “moving” and not being able to take her, I don’t put that cruddy breeder on blast.
Randy and her mother have been responsibly breeding for decades. I personally know several people who have gotten dogs from them. It’s not right to name them on Facebook.
Best of luck to Duke and Daisy in the search for a forever home. I wish I could take them myself.
Mike Hummel
Sara

well said…

Debi Amenta McNealy

At least they are trying to find a good home instead of dumping them at the pound!
Amy Erickson

You are giving away your 5 year old Weims?

Julie Lamphere Tynes
Can you get them to Dallas?

Mike Hummel
You people want to blame the breeder maybe you need to blame the trainer/the owner?! There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Randy’s Rad Weim’s.
A dog has an instinct to want to chase smaller prey just like what is embedded in this breed. I have a Weim also and when she was young she used to want to chase cats too. Just like most dogs instinctually want to go do when they see something they’re going to chase. Again maybe the owner needed to have better training instead of pointing fingers at the breeder. The breeder does not breed for their names to be drug through the mud. They breed because they love the dog and everything the dog is about. So maybe all you people that want to drag the breeders name Through the mud need to look more at the trainer/owner about the lack of proper training that they didn’t give their dogs. It’s not the dogs fault for wanting to do what it did yes unfortunately the cat paid the price for what the owners did not teach the dog not to do.
Kristine Davison Morgan
Mike Hummel a good breeder would want their dogs back. Period.

Mike Hummel
A good owner would’ve taught their dogs properly instead of assuming that they could just be thrown into the mix
Mike Hummel
Everybody sitting here Shaming the breeder remember this breeders name that you’re dragging through the mud has a long history of nothing but positive feedback. And now you get some dope of an owner that comes along and purchases two quality Weims and everybody sitting here shaming the breeder, remember this breeders name that you’re dragging through the mud has a long history of nothing but positive feedback. And now you get some dope of an owner that comes along and purchases to quality wiem‘s from this breeder and doesn’t teach them right from wrong from this breeder and doesn’t teach them right from wrong. So everybody jumps on board and tries to name shame this breeder. That’s horseshit
Kristine Davison Morgan
Mike Hummel you’re not wrong there.
Mike Hummel
well you can’t expect a breeder who has other dogs in their home already to try and take back somebody else’s purchasing mistake. That doesn’t make them a bad breeder. The purchaser needed to make a better choice on what was right for their family situation
Hermine Wilkins
Have you had them since they were pups? I had a Weim that killed one of my cats, but I didn’t rehome her.
Just curious if the cats or dogs were there first.
Ian Newton
Hermine Wilkins probably but everyone is different
Dayna Dallas
My rescue and his little sister🥰
Neths BillPam Davi
Hope you find a new home for them soon
Love and best wishes from the UK.
Ginger Minner

I know all dogs are different, but breeds can be predictable. You have to know this going in. So you’ll have to be aware of their disposition an train them. Our Gibby has 2 cat sisters and 2 cat brothers, 4 bird brothers, and 8 much smaller (including a teacup Chihuahua) dog sisters and she loves them all. She gets a little rough at times when she’s playing, but has never hurt them. Training starts when they are babies.
Edwin Leon

Interested
Kim Burnell
Edwin Leon

Super! Shoot us an email at hello@CalWEAR.org and we’ll connect you.

Zoila Herrera Rollins
Edwin Leon thank you so much for taking these beautiful dogs in to care for.
Edwin Leon
I did
Shaya May Piispanen
Edwin Leon you’re going to love weims! I have one from Randy and she is the best dog I’ve ever had. Seems these two just need some training. Thank you for taking them in!
Sara Alsbury
my male from Randy’s family is the sweetest! He’s been super gentle from the moment I got him.
Leeta McCullah
We have four weims from

Randy Blum-Betancourt

and they all are the best dogs.

Jim Lucas
I have a dog that Randy bred who is four years old. My dog is the best dog I have ever had and the healthiest.I was recommended to RandyBetancourt by friends who also have Randy’s dogs and everyone has glowing reports about how involved she is in the care of the dogs and the follow up she does with people who have her dogs. The question in my mind is why are these people giving up their dogs that they say are great dogs. I understand that the killing of the cats is most regrettable, sad and aggravating, but the cats are already gone it’s not like they will be coming home from the hospital and the dogs need to be gone. I believe the dogs weren’t properly trained or supervised and the prior owners are feeling guilty for their own responsiblity in this matter. I do hope the dogs have a better home in the future than the one they are leaving with people who could not have cared for them well anyway.
Jim Lucas
Edwin Leon Randy’s dogs are great and you will be happy with them.
Ruth Thompson
Edwin Leon thank you so much for responding to Duke and Daisy, they truly need a new home. Again, thank you for opening yours ❤️❤️

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